Nita thats not smacking thats abuse.

How many members have been out shopping and have seen someone gives there kid a smack around the head :evil:

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I'm probably going to get slammed for this but I'm not on here that much these days so what the hell.....

I agree with FG to an extent that many women want to have their cake and eat it. They want great jobs but also then expect their employers to accommodate their family responsibilities. I talk to women every day of the week who spend much of their pregnancies off work sick, then take maternity leave, then go back on the sick and then demand that their employers allow them to come back to work part-time, with them dictating their hours ! Of course you should be able to choose a career AND a family if that's what you want but some people just take the pi$$. Why accept a job if you know you're not going to be able to fulfull your contractual duties ? And why expect people without children to work weekends, night-shifts, school-holidays etc ? I know it's easy for me to talk, having no kids but I think some women just expect to be able to do it all and the reality is, you can't.

Let the flaming commence !

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on the other side of the coin you have employers who employ people knowing they have kids and treat them no differently to single people i mean i dont want preferencial treatment but i have responsibilities not just towards myself but 3 little people too

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you're despicable!!!

I totally understand that and of course people should be able to work and raise their kids. All I'm saying is that some people take advantage and DO expect special treatment just because they have kids

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even though i have kids i agree with you to some extent kerry, before i had kids and was nursing i always was expected to work xmas shifts so that thew ones with kids could spend time with them but i actually wanted to spend time with my family too and school holidays had to be sorted out as kerry says some people think its their right as they have kids to take off whatever time they choose!
i think some people have no choice but to work when they have children, i had to work for quite a while when we had 2 little ones or else they wouldnt have eaten and that wasnt out of choice it was from neccessity. But i think the women who say you can have a career and a family are wrong! you CAN do it but i dont think it makes for a good family life, since i gave up work iv benefited so much from seeing more of what the kids do each day! i think working and having a career are 2 seperate things, now before im shouted at thats just MY personal opinion, kids arent small for long so to miss out on all those early years is a shame and it must make a difference to a child whether its mummy there everyday to see them when they come home and listen about their day or a childminder or after school club!

ok

so when your kids leave home, say at 16, and your an older mother, and youve taken all this time out, what are you supposed to do, nothing? there arent all that many employers that actually want to employ an older person, they much favour a spring chicken. Your children leave home, leave you, youve brought them up sure, but noone can say 100% that their children are going to turn out good wether theyve stayed at home or not.

How does margaret thatcher have anything to do with me wanting what I want? Theres loads and loads of young girls getting knocked up on purpose so as they dont have to work, i want to work and have a family but get blasted for doing so. Theres no way that me and or hubby could stay off work 16 years to bring up a family. Who would pay the morgage? But that said, i suppose that because of this, we shouldnt have kids?

as i said i think theres a difference to being a working mother and having a career and kids... if that makes any sense?

lol - no ........... :grin:

its hard to explain on here :lol: pop over and il tell you ;-)

i think women who are very promotion orientated will find it hard to put the time in as a family as you need to do over time and be available whenever and wherever so something must have to give and it will be faimly as career people cant take time off for sick kids or sports days im sure as easily but i do think you can be a mum who works but comes home to a family life

still doesnt make sense does it :roll:

Good job I hate promotion then hey!!! ;-)