yeah i believe in science too
'cept science supports that theory of evolution is wrong

To explain why this theory is dead... i'll start with a nice and loong story
you'll need to learn basic chemistry to understand it, and you have to read the entire thing (credits from http://www.biblelife.org/creation.htm)

Once upon a time, there was a Polonium 218 element. It is radioactive, in elementary school, it would be called "hyperactive" because half of it decays into a smaller element in 3 minutes. In a day it is all changed.

Polonium can be created by Uranium 238 or some other element below Uranium 238 in the chain. it can also be created as the parent without having come from the decay of a heavier atom. <--Remember this well

Once upon a time, there was granite rock. granite is a very unique rock yet very common and plentiful. It's easily identifiable by it's crystalline structure and light color. it's solid and hard without cracks or seams, and it is very strong. and lots of other stuff, i'm not here to talk about the shape of granite, go research if you want to find out.

Granite has another unique property, that it cannot be created scientists. It is considered the "origin" material in the earth, cuz when melted and allowed to harden, it does not return to the original granite crystalline structure. the new smaller crystalline is called rhyolite.
Granite cannot be made by cooling the initial molten materials
.<--Remember this well

Granite never contains fossils such as are found in sedimentary rocks. All of these properties have led many scientists to refer to granite as a creation rock, since it could not have solidified from molten material according to the evolutionary theory.

Evolution cannot explain the presence of granite in its present structure. And where is this granite? Everywhere. Granite is the bedrock shell which encloses the entire Earth. Its exact thickness is unknown, but scientists have speculated that it forms a layer about 4.35 miles (7 km) thick, and in some areas possibly 20 miles (32 km) thick. It occurs on every continent.

These were 2 friends from day 1 we know they're friends because they lived together. the polonium lived for a very short time (3mins), but he left his mark on his friend granite, in that short time. polonium emited alpha particles that left very distinct marks in graphite. They're called polonium halos. These halos are tiny colored concentric circles which must be viewed with a microscope. The concentric circles are actually concentric spherical marks which appear as circles after the rock is cut open. "How many halos are there?" you may ask. One trillion times 10 billion are present on every continent around the world. They are everywhere.

The Polonium 218 was the parent radioactive isotope because other distinct halos which are created by other isotopes are not present. The Polonium halos are not accompanied by Uranium 238 halos.

One minute there was nothing. The next minute there were parent Polonium 218 radioactive atoms locked in the center of solid granite. The granite rock could not have formed from cooling molten rock. Granite will not form that way. In fact, scientists cannot make granite by any method. They can make diamonds but not granite. Granite is solid. The Polonium could not penetrate existing granite because it is not porous or cracked. This was day one.

These friends are absolute scientific proof that evolution is dead. First, the granite could not have been produced by evolutionary theories, the Earth cooling, etc. Second, the Polonium locks the entire time period into an instantaneous event proven by nuclear chemistry. The time is not "millions and millions and millions" of years. The granite was produced as a solid with the Polonium parent elements inside at that instant. Within the first three minutes, half of the Polonium had decayed into a lower element.

The Earth, granite and Polonium were created by God together in an instant.
Big Bang theory dies, and with its cousin, theory of evolution

i'll post another argument later

uhmm.... hin...
hmm... how should i say this...
well.. first off.. it was very knowledgable and you taught us a lot about chemistry and granite
by i have one question for you
What does this have to do with the Theory of Evolution?
i mean... the theory of evolution is about life, not rocks
Darwin only stated that certain groups started to walk a path in becoming more adapted to their environments through a process called natural selection. He said that these had evolved by gaining characteristics that help them more suited to the environment...
nothing about rocks

this is about that Earth was created instantly, it kills Big Bang, so... it somewhat kills the evolutionary theory, since the evolutionary theory said that the Earth went through millions and millions of years of change

but here it says Earth is created in a super fast way...

anyways... if stuff like monkeys evolved into humans, then how come they're still here??? i would say they were completely different beings at the beginning.

certain animals gets adapted, but it's not really evolution, it's more variation.
like humans. People who live in high places are better at breathing than people who live close to the sea level. That's why all those people from Kenya(A mountainous country) owns in the Olympics for running.

the monkeys will always be here
But, anyways, Darwin never said anything about Humans coming from monkeys so i guess they can teach it, but it's pretty obvious what can be conveyed from his theory
if you really read Darwin's Theory, he went to the Galapagnos Islands and found that on the Mainland, there was a certain kind of bird. Then he also saw that on the other islands, there were birds that were really similar but have evolved from the other one in different ways.. One had a bigger beak, one had stronger legs, etc.
same way, the monkeys will always be here.. look at gorillas, they are in betwen monkeys and man. I mean, there's this really stupid kid in my US history class that said, "Darwin is wrong. Monkeys have tails, humans don't" and i was thinking that he was really stupid and that he probably was more monkey than human... but anyways... look at some ancient tribes in Australia : The Aborigines, or some in Africa.. They look different than us right? But they're still human...
i mean, basically, the species that we have evolved from will always be here unless they had died off because of their characteristics or were killed in some other way

Even if the world was created very quickly, life was not created right away. So, in theory, evolution is still possible even taking what you say into account.

if monkeys remain, then it's not evolution, it's variation

the definition of evolution is "A gradual process in which something changes into a different form."

and the only way evolution can occur is mutations. offsprings do not receive anything more than their parents don't have. their parents might mix some kind of trait, but nothing new, it's from the existing DNA. so it forms variation, possibly better or worse.

i wouldn't say the ancient "tribes" are human. they can be also described as "herds" if they look different from us, that means they have different DNA. DNA can only change after exposure to radioactive materials or when scientist play with it by adding chemicals and all that.

i doubt those ancient people have uranium mines, or scientists to mess up their genetics in those days.

no no no no... variation is a change in a species.. monkeys are not the same species as humans... they're in the same family but not the species
it's like the giraffe species
they had very small necks, but they couldn't reach teh trees to eat.. so they all died out but the only ones that survived were the ones with the long necks.. and those were mutated and they survived... so like.. a great population of apes must of been in the woods, and kicked out some mutated freaks who eventually found out a way to survive and becomes our ancestors..
basically variation is a type of evolution, it's a subcategory underneath it
if a family from a tribe tries to come with us into the modern day world and they survive, there will be no difference between us and them.
but anyways, glad you think evolution is right

There are many causes of evolution. We evolve because it is our way of protecting ourselves. Adaptation is a part of evolution. So, take for example a bacteria. We use all these great antibiotics on it and then suddenly, the antibiotics stop working. They have evolved into a stronger bacteria that is resistant to that antibiotic. Evolution occurs everyday. However, whether or not God created that first second is beyond me. I could care less. All I know, as a science major, is that there is amazing evidence that shows there is evolution.

variation does occur, but species doesn't change into a totally new species, so it's not really evolution, but only variation.

anyways... we have been taught about Darwin's theory of evolution theory for a while... but what's the purpose? His book is called "The origins of species" , so therefore, i would think that he's trying to see how life came upon, but nowhere in his theory said anything about how the first organic thing came about.

So... his theory was incomplete, until the scientists now come up with the Big Bang theory, to try explain how the universe was *banged up, and how life was created through really harsh conditions by creating the first organic molecule or something like that. can that really happen? to me, it seemed like a nice fat sandwich trying to make itself. and the world is a lot more complex than a sandwich. the world can't come to being by itself. more and more scientists are agreeing with that now, therefore the concept of Intelligence Design came up. Since there's seperation of church and state, they can't just go "God made everything" , they have to make the resolution more secular.

the 1st post i posted basically shot the Big Bang. Now the theory is without the base. it is supported by walls and big sticks, but without a base. evolution still cannot be proven or disproven yet... even if it is real, it doesn't prove the origin of life, which is supposed to be its purpose, from the title of Darwin's book. so... what's the point of making up theory of evolution in the first place???

well... first off, i would say that the reason to make the theory of evolution is to actually try and explain something
now no offense to all the religious people (seriously.. i mean no offense) but i think that's one hell of a better idea than any religion's version of how man or the universe came... i mean in most religions, it is a mysterious "god" that exists and who creates life..
now... what evidence do we have that this "god/gods" exist?
i mean... we have a hell of a lot more evidence about the big bang theory and evolution theory than any evidence that "god" exists
if somebody can give me one reasonable explanation for the existence of God... please tell me..
and don't say stuff about how you've seen people do miraculous stuff because I've seen stuff like that too, and that has nothing to do with a "god" but just the power inside us humans that we have not yet learned to use yet